Posts by Joe Grundy

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Help messy problem

by poopie in

jw
friends

the problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.

Joe Grundy

He's obviously a busy man.

When does he get time for the working girls? Especially if he has to slot them in (so to speak) between drinking beer? Which as all men know causes brewer's droop?

Brewer's droop in itself is a good argument against Intelligent Design. Drink enough beer to overcome inhibitions and find a girl, then get the droop. What deity designed that? Not a benevolent one, that's for sure. But wait! What about Lot? Well, he obviously wasn't normal (quite apart from his grief over his salty wife -who would have guessed that would happen?) but he was able to incestuously copulate with his daughters over a couple of days while blotto.

Not quite sure what moral to take from that story. Be a good man and you don't get the droop? Be a good man and copulate with your daughters (the ones the townspeople didn't want)?

Maybe I need to go to a KH with these questions.

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Excellent Conversation At Literature Trolley

by cofty in

yesterday my wife and i enjoyed one of our regular days out at edinburgh - movie, lunch, walk, meal etc.. in the late afternoon while mrs cofty went shopping i had an hour at the excellent museum of scotland and arranged to meet up outside the national gallery on princes street.

on my way back i saw the jw trolley was at the usual spot on the royal mile.

there was an older man and a young woman standing well back trying hard to look inconspicuous.

Joe Grundy

Quarterback:

I was going to respond to your post but won't, because Cofty will surely be along soon and he can say it better than me.

Only point I'd make re evolution is = it isn't a matter of 'belief', it's a matter of 'acceptance'.

Cheers.

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Help messy problem

by poopie in

jw
friends

the problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.

Joe Grundy

If he's saving his used condoms for 4 years, that;s a bit OCD and would cause concern, and I see what you mean by 'messy problem'.

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Help messy problem

by poopie in

jw
friends

the problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.

Joe Grundy

"a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh" (sic)

Is there an element of jealousy in OP's post?

(Re. the girls, not the speed).

I know what I'd rather be doing.

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Help messy problem

by poopie in

jw
friends

the problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.

Joe Grundy

33 minutes ago

Diogenesister:

Ha ha Joe...you sure you were never a dub??!!

Poopie...sure he's a hypocrite and all...but the old bills right..his real problem is speed. Talk to him privately and insist he speaks to his local addictions directorate, to be honest the girls are probably connected to the whole " self harm" thing he's got going on. He really needs PROFFESSIONAL HELP BIG TIME. BE A REAL MATE AND HELP HIM GET IT.

And forget the elders

Yes, ma'am, I'm sure I never was a dub. Other things, and definitely was Old Bill. I may have a more liberal view towards working girls than many. I have lived in various places and known quite a few, not always professionally. (Both theirs and mine). I hate to see them disrespected = some conversations, pre-coital, post-coital and some with no coitus at all, have broken my heart (easily done).

Billy Whizz is no true friend to anybody. Trust me on this (though not from direct personal experience, just from dealing with many who took it too far).

If the OP is genuine, he'd do well to advise his 'friend' to save his money for working girls. A better high and you've got company..

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Help messy problem

by poopie in

jw
friends

the problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.

Joe Grundy

PS: If it makes you feel better, think of the working girls as part-time 'concubines' and your associate as a would-be part-time 'Solomon'.

There, problem fixed.

His biggest problem is that he's a baptised dub. THAT'S what he should be working on.

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Help messy problem

by poopie in

jw
friends

the problem is i have a baptized witness going out on service door to door giveing comments at kh who for the last 4 years has had sex with at least 10 prostitutes and regularly takes drugs ie speed the cong has no idea he's doing this he says he will never go to elders for fear his family will shun him if df so he continues i know because he tells me everything should i tell the elders or not.

Joe Grundy

10 prostitutes - 'working girls' sounds better - in four years is fairly infrequent if it's on the basis of once each. Even if it's five times each, that's only about one jump a week. Quite normal, I would have thought and no problem if he can afford it. Probably better for him than going to KH once a week and may work out cheaper.

Drugs are a bigger problem and could cause harm - and be more expensive. That would cause me concern.

But not the business of anyone else, esp. JWs. What are they going to do, counsel him from their experience? Or find some Bronze Age writings which may apply?

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How Corrupt Is WT?

by thedepressedsoul in

how corrupt do you think they are?

if so, in what ways?

i've been compiling my own list and thoughts.

Joe Grundy

(I never was a JW).

In my professional life I dealt with corruption in the legal sense.

I know that I keep banging on about this (I don't apologise) but I think the ARC proceedings are the best exemplar of corruption in the WT.

Bad as they were, the JW heirarchy are (AFAIK) largely uneducated and unqualified, including Jackson of the GB.

For me, the 'outstanding' (as in outstandingly bad) performance was from Toole, the branch lawyer. He was a qualified lawyer, admitted to practise in Oz. Therefore, he must have some education and professional qualifications. I don't know the outcome of the ARC's referral of him to the regulatory authorities.

His performance was so shockingly bad that either he was completely inept (hard to accept since he was qualified) or he was completely corrupt in the evidence he gave.

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Giant Leak of Offshore Financial Records Exposes Global Array of Crime and Corruption

by JHK in

millions of documents show heads of state, criminals and celebrities using secret hideaways in tax havens... [...].

what about watchtower society's holy money?.

https://panamapapers.icij.org/20160403-panama-papers-global-overview.html?goal=0_ffd1d0160d-4ddea55429-100339089&mc_cid=4ddea55429&mc_eid=bfe834e473.

Joe Grundy

I spent most of my specialist professional working life looking at this sort of stuff.

I keep an eye on it, and will report stuff as apropriate as I can.

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Child Abuse In This Weeks Meeting Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i was sitting at the meeting this week and the "apply yourself to the field ministry" part started.

it was the first part under, "the initial call".

they read from the "good news" brochure and ask a question on it.

Joe Grundy

(I never was a JW).

Perhaps one way you could approach this is as follows.

‘I was concerned at the meeting when child abuse was talked about. This is something which really concerns me because I have childre/grandchildren/friends with children/there are children in our congregation ... and I just can’t bear the thought of this happening to them.

I noted that in the meeting it talked about news reports, and on my tablet/pc/laptop/phone I’d seen something about this. I saw that the catholic Cardinal Pell had to give evidence to a government commission in Australia about the catholic church abuse. It was dreadful, but I was not surprised.

While I was watching that I saw that our brothers and branch COs in Australia had explained to the commission how this should be dealt with. And wow! Bro Jackson from the GB travelled to Australia to tell this commission how Jehovah’s Organisation deals with this. I am looking forward to watching Bro Jackson, and I’m sure he will bear a fine witness from which we can all learn.

Jehovah is surely blessing us by letting us see our shepherds take on this world and its problems. How blessed we are that they keep us free from this.

I’ll speak to you soon when I’ve watched Bro Jackson.’